You gotta admit...the man looks happy!
One more thing. I'll betcha a million billion dollars they Google each other's names, too.
Cold Steel
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The Governing Body Individually Should Google Their Names
by Brokeback Watchtower ingoogle has a great search engine.
and gb member can find it a valuable aid to see what the world outside of jws thinks of them.
hey they should know what being said about them it would make them better gbs, it would give them a good view of their 'shadow' (jungian) and might make them more effective ceo of jehovah's chariot.if am3 typed in "anthony morris governing body" look at all the neat stuff he would find.. i know google is tailored to each individual but here's what comes up on my screen:.
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If Watchtower can use a non-sequitur to say that Jesus now knows the day and the hour, despite Matthew 24:36 ....
by Island Man in... where's the good sense preventing them from again making a date prediction for the end and using a non-sequitur to justify their claim in the face of matthew 24:36?
"... but christ has been empowered in heaven to wage war against satan's world.
(rev 19:11-16) thus, it is reasonable to conclude that jesus now knows when armageddon will occur...." - watchtower july 2016, page 14, par.
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"... But Christ has been empowered in heaven to wage war against Satan's world. (Rev 19:11-16) Thus, it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus now knows when Armageddon will occur...." - Watchtower July 2016, page 14, par. 4.
Look, the writer was simply stating an opinion. And he or she may be right. If we accept that "all authority in Heaven and Earth" has been given to Jesus, it would stand to reason that he would now know the time of his coming. The biblical Armageddon will begin about three and a half years after the historic peace agreement with Gog/Antichrist. At that time the agreement will be negated and the Muslim nations surrounding Israel will attack in a war of annihilation. Two prophets will withstand the enemy for another three and a half years, but will ultimately be killed. Their bodies will lie on the streets of Jerusalem for three and a half days. Then Jesus comes, destroys Gog, converts the Jews and restores the Temple, making Jerusalem a world capital.
My point is, that one the peace agreement is signed, anyone with a calendar will be able to accurately predict Christ's coming. Thus, what was once true no longer will hold true. In the Society's case, the writer simply states an opinion that may or may not be true.
If the GB is God's official channel, as the JWs believe, then such a statement might be an inspired utterance. But whether an opinion or declaration, the statement may actually be correct. But to me it just sounded like an opinion. Nothing more.
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The Governing Body Individually Should Google Their Names
by Brokeback Watchtower ingoogle has a great search engine.
and gb member can find it a valuable aid to see what the world outside of jws thinks of them.
hey they should know what being said about them it would make them better gbs, it would give them a good view of their 'shadow' (jungian) and might make them more effective ceo of jehovah's chariot.if am3 typed in "anthony morris governing body" look at all the neat stuff he would find.. i know google is tailored to each individual but here's what comes up on my screen:.
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Cold Steel
I guarantee you they Google their names.
I'll bet you a million billion dollars they Google their own names!
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How Will Armageddon Begin?
by Cold Steel inand how long will it last?
and who will come after that, yahweh, as the old testament says or jesus, as the new testament says?
the scriptures say he'll come to the mount of olives, but surely that's a spiritual mount of olives.
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Peely » This war is not fought with literal weapons used in literal war. The symbolism of Revelation and Joel helps define it as fought in the valley of “decision”.
John only refers to it in passing, Peely. The real meat of these prophecies is in Ezekiel 38-39, Zechariah 12, 14, and Psalm 83. And I guarantee you real weapons will be employed. Ezekiel tells us specifically what nations will be involved and about the personality known as Gog (the Beast). Every nation listed is a Muslim nation. Add to that that Islamic eschatology calls for a war of total destruction against the Jews -- only in their prophecies, they win and destroy the Jews.
When Jesus/Yahweh returns he will come to the Mount of Olives and scripture says his feet will touch the Mount, just as the angel predicted. One of the Jews will ask him, "What are these wounds in your hands?"
Jesus will destroy all but a sixth of Gog's forces. The Jews will finally be converted and Jerusalem will become a world capital. It's all there. But that's the biblical Armageddon. I'm not sure how the JWs came up with their concept, which is more like the Norse Ragnorak.
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How Will Armageddon Begin?
by Cold Steel inand how long will it last?
and who will come after that, yahweh, as the old testament says or jesus, as the new testament says?
the scriptures say he'll come to the mount of olives, but surely that's a spiritual mount of olives.
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Interesting.
I don't see the biblical teachings of Armageddon as a ridiculous religious fable at all. The book of Revelation was written after the destruction of Jerusalem and the scattering of the Jews by the Romans, yet clearly they were convinced that Jerusalem would be restored. The things that are happening in the Middle East appear to be lining up for the old Jewish and Christian prophecies, but not the JW interpretation.
When apocalyptic literature speaks of the "entire earth" or "the whole earth," it more often than not is merely hyperbole. Joel Richardson quotes Gleason L. Archer Jr., "perhaps the chief apostle of the doctrine of Biblical inerrancy and a well-known translator and scholar of Biblical languages" as stating: "The whole earth (kol ‘ara`) refers, not to all known parts of the inhabited earth, but rather (as in general OT usage) to the entire territory of the Near and Middle East that in any way relates to the Holy Land. The word 'ara' (and its Hebrew equivalent ères) does not necessarily mean globe in the sense of 'the entire inhabited globe' but—depending on context—might mean a single country (ères yisra’el is 'the land of Israel') or a larger geographical unit, such as 'territory' or 'region.')"
The GB falls for the global scope of "the Beast" when according to Ezekiel, the nations are listed in chapter 38, and they're all Muslim countries. ISIS already is beheading people as John saw, and Islam is rich in its traditions of prophecy in attacking Jerusalem. But it will be a local event in the Middle East, not a global event as the JWs teach.
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When GB Members Travel...Do They Stay With Members?
by Cold Steel inor do they stay at hotels?
do most jws know who's on the governing body?
if one just showed up at church would he be immediately recognized?
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The whole "slave class" is total bullshit.
I'm fascinated by the JW's choice of the word of "slave" over the word "servant." A slave usually has no agency and is owned. A servant generally has more agency and responsibility than a slave. In fact, the NWT is the only bible translation that uses the word slave that I know of. Also, slaves also don't generally fly Business Class but are generally chained in the cargo hold!
Based on my reading, the Lord encourages us to think of Him as our Father and us as His Children, and John says that "when we see Him, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is." (1 John 3:2) Certainly they will see this as the 144,000 John-class individuals, but still, this is hardly slave status!
In the past, the GB have said they're not leaders of the Society; they simply serve as a conduit of Jehovah's will. From God's mouth to their ears!
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When GB Members Travel...Do They Stay With Members?
by Cold Steel inor do they stay at hotels?
do most jws know who's on the governing body?
if one just showed up at church would he be immediately recognized?
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Cold Steel
So you mean to say they stay in hotels, never with members? Didn't Jesus stay with friends and strangers? Look how he changed the lives of those he was with. And the GB members would have enormous opportunities to minister to the people. Not only by example, but to learn of their needs. Aren't we supposed to serve? In fact, aren't the greatest among us supposed to be the servants of all? And aren't they supposed to feed those in the household of God? The faithful and discreet servant...er...slave?
Where does it say Jesus ever stayed at the Jerusalem Marriott? (It's not in my Bible.)
These guys need to get with the program. But maybe Jesus being only an archangel, he's working under a different schedule. Think of the people these guys have the potential of inspiring or influencing -- people who put them in the same boat as the apostles themselves! The stories these people could pass down to their kids and grandkids! Anthony Morris III stayed with us one weekend! How cool would that be? But no, they're at the local Hilton writing snide comments in the Gideon Bibles!
Okay, I'm kidding, but you see where I'm going with this, right?
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When GB Members Travel...Do They Stay With Members?
by Cold Steel inor do they stay at hotels?
do most jws know who's on the governing body?
if one just showed up at church would he be immediately recognized?
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Or do they stay at hotels?
Do most JWs know who's on the Governing Body? If one just showed up at church would he be immediately recognized?
Are all members of the GB anointed (of the John class)? And when there's a vacancy, how do they fill the position? Are names submitted to them or do they choose people known to them? Also, what is the extent of their authority? Can a GB member override the decision of local leaders, or is each Kingdom Hall independent?
Finally, if one of these members had come to your KH one weekend (now if you're active or when you were active), would you have put them up for one or two nights? Do you know anyone who's done this?
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Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time
by Cold Steel ini've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.
i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?
let's say you're a baptist.
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How heavy were the gold plates?
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Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time
by Cold Steel ini've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.
i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?
let's say you're a baptist.
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The Mormon cult is definitely more stupid because there is a lot more evidence disproving more of it's ridiculous claims given how recent it's holy book is and the falsifiable nature of its claims. You have to be more gullible to join the Mormons as an adult, than to join the JWs.
This is something that's moot at best. Most people who make such statements are completely ignorant of the facts. They read that there are no evidences on a website or in a book, then they spout it off as if they're authorities. My only point in mentioning my religion was because the JWs were insistent on making it an issue rather than actually teaching me about their religion.
If people really believe there is no evidence to support the Book of Mormon, how do they explain the existence of Nahom (NHM), or the existence of Bountiful (in the exact spot it's supposed to be)?
And how about the first Lehite encampment in Saudi Arabia? For decades critics have asked where, in Saudi Arabia, is there a "river of water" in a valley that emptied into the Red Sea? Thanks to researchers with the Nephi Project, there is such a place three days from Jerusalem (just as the Book of Mormon states). Lehi and his sons record they built an altar of stones there and there is an altar of stones at the site. Shards of pottery found at the location (identified as a campsite) dated to circa 600 B.C., the exact time of the Book of Mormon events.
Critics ask where in the Empty Quarter Nephi could have built a ship, and where he would have found the trees, who could have helped him and where he got the tools? They point out that there is no such place with idyllic conditions, with honey, grains, fruits, tropical weather and so forth. But if one finds Nahom and goes due east (as the Book of Mormon describes), one crosses the Empty Quarter and finds a place that directly matches that description. Trees, plenty of ore for tools, builders who lived and worked there, majestic cliffs with honey bees, grains, figs and harbor areas perfect for building ships. No one in New York knew these things in 1830.
One member of the party, Ishmael, died early on en route in the Book of Mormon and was buried at "a place called Nahom" (a Hebrew term meaning "comfort"). In Joseph Smith's day, no one knew that a place called Nahom existed. Critics say it's all coincidence (right!), but in 1995, archeologists began finding interred bodies at Nahom. First they found the place in the right spot and it was a "coincidence." Then it was found to be a burial site. More coincidence? Hmmm.
For those who claim there is no evidence to support the Book of Mormon, take a look at Jeff Lindsey's Evidences website. Perhaps our critics should read a bit about these things before pontificating about it. Obviously, if the book is not what it claims it should be perfectly safe to say there's no evidence. But if I didn't think there was something to it, I wouldn't be a believer, and no one who knows me believes me to be a fool.
In the LDS faith one may visit whatever church one wishes to, read any book one wishes to; there's no shunning, no one sticks their noses into what books are on the dining room table, whether you keep a gun for self defense and we can give or receive blood as necessary to preserve life. There is nothing that even approximates what JWs have to go through with their elders. There's no fear.